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		<title>By: Claire Salzberg</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/10/31/this-city-is-haunted/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire Salzberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christopher,

OK.  Now I get it.  I&#039;ll look up next time I&#039;m in the area.  

Sorry for the confusion.  I thought you were referring to the photo!

Glad you liked my work.  

Claire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christopher,</p>
<p>OK.  Now I get it.  I&#8217;ll look up next time I&#8217;m in the area.  </p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion.  I thought you were referring to the photo!</p>
<p>Glad you liked my work.  </p>
<p>Claire</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/10/31/this-city-is-haunted/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire --- I wasn&#039;t referring to the Lea &amp; Perrins&#039; sign. I was talking about a ghost sign four stories above the corner of Park and Bernard; most of the time it looks like a black square, but when the atmospheric conditions are right there is some text that is faintly visible.

Great sculptures, by the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire &#8212; I wasn&#8217;t referring to the Lea &#038; Perrins&#8217; sign. I was talking about a ghost sign four stories above the corner of Park and Bernard; most of the time it looks like a black square, but when the atmospheric conditions are right there is some text that is faintly visible.</p>
<p>Great sculptures, by the way!</p>
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		<title>By: Claire Salzberg</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/10/31/this-city-is-haunted/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire Salzberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 01:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lea &amp; Perrins sign is at the corner of President Kennedy and St. Lawrence Boulevard, Not Park and Bernard! How could it be 4 stories up: there is a man standing on the sidewalk in the photo!

As you can see from my web site, I like doing old buildings in Montreal and some wall ads, like Union Stamp Shoes, which is no longer visible, as it is covered up, almost by a new building.  It is on St. Antoine, just east of St. Lawrence Blvd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lea &amp; Perrins sign is at the corner of President Kennedy and St. Lawrence Boulevard, Not Park and Bernard! How could it be 4 stories up: there is a man standing on the sidewalk in the photo!</p>
<p>As you can see from my web site, I like doing old buildings in Montreal and some wall ads, like Union Stamp Shoes, which is no longer visible, as it is covered up, almost by a new building.  It is on St. Antoine, just east of St. Lawrence Blvd.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Bayne</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/10/31/this-city-is-haunted/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Bayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, after further research I believe that it is cleaning/preservation work rather than a contemporary recreation.  It&#039;s just that at the time I took the photo, the ads seemed so striking and vivid compared to what was there before that I (cynically) assumed they had to be new.

By the way, the Shaw Building now looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_2_271_213_0_43/http%3B/CMSServer/NR/rdonlyres/E96C4445-799E-4CA8-AAA6-C1FFCE8D60A2/0/07351.jpeg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, and is home to the Maverick Brewery.  Some details of the adaptation, which was up for a design award, are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_284_220_0_43/http%3B/CMSServer/COEWeb/infrastructure+planning+and+building/Shaw+Building+and+Brewery.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, after further research I believe that it is cleaning/preservation work rather than a contemporary recreation.  It&#8217;s just that at the time I took the photo, the ads seemed so striking and vivid compared to what was there before that I (cynically) assumed they had to be new.</p>
<p>By the way, the Shaw Building now looks like <a href="http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_2_271_213_0_43/http%3B/CMSServer/NR/rdonlyres/E96C4445-799E-4CA8-AAA6-C1FFCE8D60A2/0/07351.jpeg" rel="nofollow">this</a>, and is home to the Maverick Brewery.  Some details of the adaptation, which was up for a design award, are <a href="http://www.edmonton.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_284_220_0_43/http%3B/CMSServer/COEWeb/infrastructure+planning+and+building/Shaw+Building+and+Brewery.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Druce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Druce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Election signs aren&#039;t painted on the sides of buildings anymore; instead, we have yard signs (plastic with two prongs on the bottom) and paper placards for windows. The glossy party signs that get attached to lampposts in Canada are nowhere to be found. Particularly competitive local races with rich candidates, like the current ones for Cook County Board President or Illinois State Treasurer, will have highway billboards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election signs aren&#8217;t painted on the sides of buildings anymore; instead, we have yard signs (plastic with two prongs on the bottom) and paper placards for windows. The glossy party signs that get attached to lampposts in Canada are nowhere to be found. Particularly competitive local races with rich candidates, like the current ones for Cook County Board President or Illinois State Treasurer, will have highway billboards.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan, is that a restoration or simply a preservation? It still looks a bit ragged so maybe it was just cleaned. 

Evan, I&#039;m surprised to hear that election signs are actually painted on the sides of buildings in Chicago. Here they&#039;re just plastic posters that are attached to lampposts and removed after election day. No stickers, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan, is that a restoration or simply a preservation? It still looks a bit ragged so maybe it was just cleaned. </p>
<p>Evan, I&#8217;m surprised to hear that election signs are actually painted on the sides of buildings in Chicago. Here they&#8217;re just plastic posters that are attached to lampposts and removed after election day. No stickers, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Druce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Druce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicago&#039;s old political ghost ads are my favorite. In my neighborhood of Uptown/Andersonville (the definition becomes iffy right as you hit my building), I&#039;ve seen ads for both Harold Washington (Chicago&#039;s first black mayor, 1983) and Bernard Epton (his Republican challenger). Driving down the Stevenson Expressway towards Midway Airport from downtown, you can spot an ad painted on the side of a building urging voters to re-elect Mayor Daley--Richard J. Daley that is--in 1963. If there is ever a fight to save that building from the chopping block (and I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll stay up as long as Daley fils is in office) I&#039;ll do my damnedest to preserve it.

Old political stickers never seem to die either. In my old neighborhood of Hawthorne, New Jersey, traffic-signal control boxes are covered in &quot;FLORIO-FREE IN &#039;93&quot; stickers, referring to a former governor who was a very polarizing figure in our usually very Democratic state. And here in Chicago, a &quot;John Glenn for President&quot; sign is attached to a lamppost in front of my old apartment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago&#8217;s old political ghost ads are my favorite. In my neighborhood of Uptown/Andersonville (the definition becomes iffy right as you hit my building), I&#8217;ve seen ads for both Harold Washington (Chicago&#8217;s first black mayor, 1983) and Bernard Epton (his Republican challenger). Driving down the Stevenson Expressway towards Midway Airport from downtown, you can spot an ad painted on the side of a building urging voters to re-elect Mayor Daley&#8211;Richard J. Daley that is&#8211;in 1963. If there is ever a fight to save that building from the chopping block (and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll stay up as long as Daley fils is in office) I&#8217;ll do my damnedest to preserve it.</p>
<p>Old political stickers never seem to die either. In my old neighborhood of Hawthorne, New Jersey, traffic-signal control boxes are covered in &#8220;FLORIO-FREE IN &#8216;93&#8243; stickers, referring to a former governor who was a very polarizing figure in our usually very Democratic state. And here in Chicago, a &#8220;John Glenn for President&#8221; sign is attached to a lamppost in front of my old apartment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Bayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan Bayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My definition of heritage also includes 1970s department store cafeterias–can’t say I have too many supporters on that one.&lt;/i&gt;

One vote here.

I can&#039;t say I&#039;m a big fan of most restorations - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanhermit/251726607/in/set-72157594298119653/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; for example has an air of inauthenticity about it, though I suppose it is preferable to a building plastered with contemporary advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My definition of heritage also includes 1970s department store cafeterias–can’t say I have too many supporters on that one.</i></p>
<p>One vote here.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a big fan of most restorations &#8211; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanhermit/251726607/in/set-72157594298119653/" rel="nofollow">this one</a> for example has an air of inauthenticity about it, though I suppose it is preferable to a building plastered with contemporary advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/10/31/this-city-is-haunted/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the narrow definition of heritage. I see these signs as one of many ways to gain a sense of historical depth when walking through a city. My definition of heritage also includes 1970s department store cafeterias--can&#039;t say I have too many supporters on that one.

I remember a kickass working 19th-century pharmacy inside that very same old building in Malmo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/akkolady/228094057/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the narrow definition of heritage. I see these signs as one of many ways to gain a sense of historical depth when walking through a city. My definition of heritage also includes 1970s department store cafeterias&#8211;can&#8217;t say I have too many supporters on that one.</p>
<p>I remember a kickass working 19th-century pharmacy inside that very same old building in Malmo:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/akkolady/228094057/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/akkolady/228094057/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Factotum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olga, I enjoyed your having added a link to your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olga, I enjoyed your having added a link to your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Olga Schlyter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olga Schlyter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Malmö we have a couple of walls with old ads restored. It was some kind of cooperation between the city&#039;s heritage office and the painters organization some years ago. 

A photo: http://static.flickr.com/99/285655093_f52f94caf2_o.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Malmö we have a couple of walls with old ads restored. It was some kind of cooperation between the city&#8217;s heritage office and the painters organization some years ago. </p>
<p>A photo: <a href="http://static.flickr.com/99/285655093_f52f94caf2_o.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://static.flickr.com/99/285655093_f52f94caf2_o.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great idea, especially since it embraces the ephemerality of these signs by using projected light as its medium.

Sounds like the heritage group has a very narrow definition of heritage. I spoke with an architect about ghost signs and he sees no redeeming value in them, aesthetically, historically or culturally. I look at these old advertisements and I wonder what they looked like originally and what the city was like when these were all over the place.  You see them in old photos  all the time but of course they&#039;re in black-and-white; imagine how colourful the streets would have been with these things on every wall. Aside from that, I&#039;m also interested in their content: the advertising slogans are usually very quaint, the products themselves are of a different era (when was the last time you saw an ad for shoe polish or welding?). 

I understand the aesthetic argument against these signs, but I don&#039;t understand how anyone can look at them and not be the slightest bit curious about their origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great idea, especially since it embraces the ephemerality of these signs by using projected light as its medium.</p>
<p>Sounds like the heritage group has a very narrow definition of heritage. I spoke with an architect about ghost signs and he sees no redeeming value in them, aesthetically, historically or culturally. I look at these old advertisements and I wonder what they looked like originally and what the city was like when these were all over the place.  You see them in old photos  all the time but of course they&#8217;re in black-and-white; imagine how colourful the streets would have been with these things on every wall. Aside from that, I&#8217;m also interested in their content: the advertising slogans are usually very quaint, the products themselves are of a different era (when was the last time you saw an ad for shoe polish or welding?). </p>
<p>I understand the aesthetic argument against these signs, but I don&#8217;t understand how anyone can look at them and not be the slightest bit curious about their origins.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. A nice Halloween treat. It&#039;s nice to see there are people standing up for these. 

I met some people in Quebec City who had an interesting project to protect and draw attention to these old ghost signs. They were hoping to use multimedia projections at night that would recreate the original ads, appearing, disappearing, playing with colours, highlighting the different layers, etc. I thought it was a great idea, but some people at a large local heritage organization said that advertisements were not heritage, that the painted murals all over the city are tacky and that we don&#039;t need more crap to draw attention away from the architecture. hm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. A nice Halloween treat. It&#8217;s nice to see there are people standing up for these. </p>
<p>I met some people in Quebec City who had an interesting project to protect and draw attention to these old ghost signs. They were hoping to use multimedia projections at night that would recreate the original ads, appearing, disappearing, playing with colours, highlighting the different layers, etc. I thought it was a great idea, but some people at a large local heritage organization said that advertisements were not heritage, that the painted murals all over the city are tacky and that we don&#8217;t need more crap to draw attention away from the architecture. hm&#8230;</p>
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