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		<title>By: bryce</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/comment-page-1/#comment-272570</link>
		<dc:creator>bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walking/biking = good
driving = bad, dangerous, stinky</description>
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driving = bad, dangerous, stinky</p>
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		<title>By: Our &#8220;Robust Jaywalking Culture&#8221; &#171; Idealist in NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/comment-page-1/#comment-272109</link>
		<dc:creator>Our &#8220;Robust Jaywalking Culture&#8221; &#171; Idealist in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  After moving to New York, I quickly learned the art of safe and efficient jaywalking. This post on URBANPHOTO (via Astoria Bike) captures the positive spirit of jaywalking that I&#8217;ve come to hold dear: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  After moving to New York, I quickly learned the art of safe and efficient jaywalking. This post on URBANPHOTO (via Astoria Bike) captures the positive spirit of jaywalking that I&#8217;ve come to hold dear: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: payton</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/comment-page-1/#comment-262425</link>
		<dc:creator>payton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a fascinating bit of etymology, showing how auto interests (which ultimately led to the city&#039;s ruin at the hands of their road-hogging rural contraptions) turned city dwellers&#039; cosmopolitanism against themselves with the term.

&quot;A &#039;jay&#039; was a hayseed, out of place in the city; a jaywalker was someone who did not know how to walk in a city. Originally the term applied as much or more to pedestrians who obstructed the path of other pedestrians—by failing, for example, to keep to the right on the sidewalk. As autos grew common on city streets, jaywalkers were more often pedestrians oblivious to the danger of city motor traffic... &#039;Jaywalker&#039; carried the sting of ridicule, and many objected to branding independent-minded pedestrians with the term. In 1915 New York&#039;s police commissioner, Arthur Woods, attempted to use it to describe anyone who crossed the street at mid-block. The &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt; objected, calling the word &#039;highly opprobrious&#039; and &#039;a truly shocking name.&#039; Any attempt to arrest pedestrians would be &#039;silly and intolerable.&#039; [...] In 1921 a National Safety Council member from Baltimore confessed to his colleagues that, at least in pedestrian control... &#039;You are affecting personal liberty when you keep people from crossing the streets at certain places.&#039; [...] The cleverest anti-jaywalking publicity effort was in Detroit in 1922, where the Packard Motor Car Company exploited the new fashion for monuments to traffic fatalities. Packard built an oversized imitation tombstone that closely resembled the monument to the innocent child victims of accidents in Baltimore. But Packard&#039;s tombstone redirected blame to the victims. It was marked &#039;Erected to the Memory of Mr. J. Walker: He Stepped from the Curb Without Looking.&#039; &quot; -- Peter D. Norton, &lt;i&gt;Fighting Traffic&lt;/i&gt; (MIT, 2008), pp. 72-77</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fascinating bit of etymology, showing how auto interests (which ultimately led to the city&#8217;s ruin at the hands of their road-hogging rural contraptions) turned city dwellers&#8217; cosmopolitanism against themselves with the term.</p>
<p>&#8220;A &#8216;jay&#8217; was a hayseed, out of place in the city; a jaywalker was someone who did not know how to walk in a city. Originally the term applied as much or more to pedestrians who obstructed the path of other pedestrians—by failing, for example, to keep to the right on the sidewalk. As autos grew common on city streets, jaywalkers were more often pedestrians oblivious to the danger of city motor traffic&#8230; &#8216;Jaywalker&#8217; carried the sting of ridicule, and many objected to branding independent-minded pedestrians with the term. In 1915 New York&#8217;s police commissioner, Arthur Woods, attempted to use it to describe anyone who crossed the street at mid-block. The <i>New York Times</i> objected, calling the word &#8216;highly opprobrious&#8217; and &#8216;a truly shocking name.&#8217; Any attempt to arrest pedestrians would be &#8216;silly and intolerable.&#8217; [...] In 1921 a National Safety Council member from Baltimore confessed to his colleagues that, at least in pedestrian control&#8230; &#8216;You are affecting personal liberty when you keep people from crossing the streets at certain places.&#8217; [...] The cleverest anti-jaywalking publicity effort was in Detroit in 1922, where the Packard Motor Car Company exploited the new fashion for monuments to traffic fatalities. Packard built an oversized imitation tombstone that closely resembled the monument to the innocent child victims of accidents in Baltimore. But Packard&#8217;s tombstone redirected blame to the victims. It was marked &#8216;Erected to the Memory of Mr. J. Walker: He Stepped from the Curb Without Looking.&#8217; &#8221; &#8212; Peter D. Norton, <i>Fighting Traffic</i> (MIT, 2008), pp. 72-77</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanGreeks &#187; Archives &#187; Jaywalking</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/comment-page-1/#comment-60769</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanGreeks &#187; Archives &#187; Jaywalking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right now there is a featured posting on jaywalking: http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Right now there is a featured posting on jaywalking: <a href="http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zvi</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2006/11/06/why-you-should-jaywalk/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Zvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also don&#039;t see much connection between jay-walking and &quot;culture&quot;. If anything, jay-walking might perhaps be indicative of a general attitude to &quot;authority&quot;, whether that authority is the government (ie laws) or the community. Perhaps lack of jay-walking reflects a particularly &#039;cartesian&#039; and structured way of thinking, who knows? 

Personally, I think that a balance between cars and non-motorized modes of transport needs to be found. When this balance is disrupted, that is when one finds more aggressive behaviour. I would say that Montreal might be close to the &#039;tipping point&#039; in that respect - as congestion increases, car drivers seem to be becoming much more aggressive over the last few years.

On another note, most pedestrian accidents actually occur at intersections! And it is by no means obvious who was at fault in many cases. People who cross mid-block are much more aware of their surroundings and are far less likely to be caught off-guard. On the other hand, the severity of an injury increases exponentially with the speed of the contact! A car going 10 kph and hitting someone while making a turn is not likely to kill someone, whereas a direct blow from a car going 50-60 kph (ie a mid-block accident) could quite possibly be fatal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also don&#8217;t see much connection between jay-walking and &#8220;culture&#8221;. If anything, jay-walking might perhaps be indicative of a general attitude to &#8220;authority&#8221;, whether that authority is the government (ie laws) or the community. Perhaps lack of jay-walking reflects a particularly &#8216;cartesian&#8217; and structured way of thinking, who knows? </p>
<p>Personally, I think that a balance between cars and non-motorized modes of transport needs to be found. When this balance is disrupted, that is when one finds more aggressive behaviour. I would say that Montreal might be close to the &#8216;tipping point&#8217; in that respect &#8211; as congestion increases, car drivers seem to be becoming much more aggressive over the last few years.</p>
<p>On another note, most pedestrian accidents actually occur at intersections! And it is by no means obvious who was at fault in many cases. People who cross mid-block are much more aware of their surroundings and are far less likely to be caught off-guard. On the other hand, the severity of an injury increases exponentially with the speed of the contact! A car going 10 kph and hitting someone while making a turn is not likely to kill someone, whereas a direct blow from a car going 50-60 kph (ie a mid-block accident) could quite possibly be fatal.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Chris (Szabla), that raises an interesting question. Beyond the legal/safety arguments against jaywalking (which I believe are flawed for the reasons I outlined in my column), I&#039;m really curious to know how jaywalking and culture are related. By culture  I don&#039;t mean culture in an artistic sense, of course, but culture in an anthropological one. That is to say, why do Londoners/Montrealers/Bostonians/Hong Kongers jaywalk so abundantly when Berliners/San Franciscans/Copenhageners/Tokyoites do not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Chris (Szabla), that raises an interesting question. Beyond the legal/safety arguments against jaywalking (which I believe are flawed for the reasons I outlined in my column), I&#8217;m really curious to know how jaywalking and culture are related. By culture  I don&#8217;t mean culture in an artistic sense, of course, but culture in an anthropological one. That is to say, why do Londoners/Montrealers/Bostonians/Hong Kongers jaywalk so abundantly when Berliners/San Franciscans/Copenhageners/Tokyoites do not?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Szabla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Szabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaywalking = Culture is an absurd concept for many reasons, most of which need not be recounted here. Counterexamples from Northern Europe suffice nicely. Needless to say Berlin is eeking out an existence almost solely on the basis of its artistic/creative life, but it remains a severe cultural taboo to even contemplate crossing against the light even with no traffic approaching. Similarly, pedestrians are NOT to cross into bike lanes in sidewalks there- and it will be the very artists who reside in squatter colonies covered in graffiti whose careening conveyances will enforce just this statute- with force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaywalking = Culture is an absurd concept for many reasons, most of which need not be recounted here. Counterexamples from Northern Europe suffice nicely. Needless to say Berlin is eeking out an existence almost solely on the basis of its artistic/creative life, but it remains a severe cultural taboo to even contemplate crossing against the light even with no traffic approaching. Similarly, pedestrians are NOT to cross into bike lanes in sidewalks there- and it will be the very artists who reside in squatter colonies covered in graffiti whose careening conveyances will enforce just this statute- with force.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I agree with the jaywalking=civilization link. Some law-abiding peoples have a great deal of culture while some who disregard the law are downright barbaric, and vice versa.

The worst place I&#039;ve ever been for this is Copenhagen, where I was scolded by other pedestrians on several occasions for jaywalking. People will wait for the pedestrian light to change even if there is no car in sight. It&#039;s infuriating. Despite this slight shortcoming, I consider the Danes to have an exemplary culture and civilization.

In the same vein, I have difficulty understanding cars who will wait for the light to turn green when there are no vehicles or pedestrians in sight for miles. I also don&#039;t understand why we subject cyclists to the same driving laws as cars when it is a more flexible form of transport that is not life-threatening to pedestrians--even in &quot;civilized&quot; Montreal, I met some right sticklers who refused to mind their own business as I cycled against traffic, on the sidewalk in a busy street, etc. I consider this to be the same kind of behaviour as those who are jaywalker-intolerant. 

Can&#039;t we all be a little less Danish when it comes to these things (and a little more Danish when it comes to other things)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I agree with the jaywalking=civilization link. Some law-abiding peoples have a great deal of culture while some who disregard the law are downright barbaric, and vice versa.</p>
<p>The worst place I&#8217;ve ever been for this is Copenhagen, where I was scolded by other pedestrians on several occasions for jaywalking. People will wait for the pedestrian light to change even if there is no car in sight. It&#8217;s infuriating. Despite this slight shortcoming, I consider the Danes to have an exemplary culture and civilization.</p>
<p>In the same vein, I have difficulty understanding cars who will wait for the light to turn green when there are no vehicles or pedestrians in sight for miles. I also don&#8217;t understand why we subject cyclists to the same driving laws as cars when it is a more flexible form of transport that is not life-threatening to pedestrians&#8211;even in &#8220;civilized&#8221; Montreal, I met some right sticklers who refused to mind their own business as I cycled against traffic, on the sidewalk in a busy street, etc. I consider this to be the same kind of behaviour as those who are jaywalker-intolerant. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we all be a little less Danish when it comes to these things (and a little more Danish when it comes to other things)?</p>
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		<title>By: warford</title>
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		<dc:creator>warford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about vienna? plenty of culture, but hardly a jaywalker&#039;s paradise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about vienna? plenty of culture, but hardly a jaywalker&#8217;s paradise.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Druce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Druce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your observation about a correlation between culturedness and jaywalking is an apt one, even in places where the cultures of consensus and orderliness are prevalent. The only difference in those cities is that cars invariably stop for pedestrians. I&#039;m talking about Toronto, Vancouver, San Francisco, Oslo, Stockholm--from my visits to Toronto, drivers there seem to be legendary for their courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your observation about a correlation between culturedness and jaywalking is an apt one, even in places where the cultures of consensus and orderliness are prevalent. The only difference in those cities is that cars invariably stop for pedestrians. I&#8217;m talking about Toronto, Vancouver, San Francisco, Oslo, Stockholm&#8211;from my visits to Toronto, drivers there seem to be legendary for their courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, an anecdote from my summer travels:

London is a jaywalker&#039;s paradise. Jaywalking is perfectly legal in the UK -- as long as there are no cars coming, you are allowed to cross the street -- and people jaywalk there like mad. Nobody hesitates to cross against the light (even in Montreal, there are always a handful of people who insist on waiting for the green) and there are always many people crossing mid-block.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, an anecdote from my summer travels:</p>
<p>London is a jaywalker&#8217;s paradise. Jaywalking is perfectly legal in the UK &#8212; as long as there are no cars coming, you are allowed to cross the street &#8212; and people jaywalk there like mad. Nobody hesitates to cross against the light (even in Montreal, there are always a handful of people who insist on waiting for the green) and there are always many people crossing mid-block.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that, in general, the more cultured the city, the more jaywalking exists.  Montreal is a cultured place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that, in general, the more cultured the city, the more jaywalking exists.  Montreal is a cultured place.</p>
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